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  • #1
    Originally posted by Ronny View Post
    Wife got a 2% raise on Social Security. Sadly, they increase her Medicare premium by the same amount, to the penny. But, not to worry. I'll be getting the same increases. We'll be OK.
    Socialist!
    For every ailment under the sun - There is a remedy, or there is none;
    If there be one, try to find it; If there be none, never mind it. -- Mother Goose

    "We've always assumed that you can't bring back the dead. But it's a matter of when you pickle the cells." -- Peter Rhee

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    • #2
      Originally posted by Ronny View Post
      Wife got a 2% raise on Social Security. Sadly, they increase her Medicare premium by the same amount, to the penny. But, not to worry. I'll be getting the same increases. We'll be OK.
      Don't worry, I'm transferring my wealth to you by still working. You're welcome! LMFAO
      "Democracy is a form of worship. It is the worship of jackals by jackasses." H.L. Mencken

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      • #3
        Me too. And thanks to all the rest of you who are working and paying for my father's social security. Keep that pyramid scheme going.
        I'm for defending all rights for everyone.

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        • #4
          A similar thing happens every time I get a raise. The family spends exactly that much more!

          Pete (chuckles)

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          • #5
            Robbing Peter to pay Paul?
            They speak in bulletpointese leftist nutjob drivel. It doesn't matter. Nothing is as great a motivator as the chance to truly be free.
            -Mr. Raceboy

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            • #6
              No! Robbing you all to pay me. And, it's not enough. Get back to work.
              At the precipice, we change!
              The problem with Capitalism is that humans run it.

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              • #7
                The attitude of most on Social Security is "I paid into it, I'm going to get mine". I get it. But at who's expense? Your children, grandchildren, great grandchildren... Who had no say in congress raiding your social security contributions? Those receiving Social Security bear more responsibility for it than my 15 year old daughter. Yet she's being saddled with the debt.

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                • #8
                  It seems rather out of place to chastise SS recipients as being "responsible" for this monumental fiasco. How would you suggest that we/I take responsibility? By the way, you're not the first on this forum to take this position. Most of the members are of a similar mind, as I recall.

                  There are two obvious solutions. 1. Let it die for lack of funding (good luck electing those politicians), 2. Mandate that recipients die when they reach the age of 65 (current recipients are grandfathered in, of course).

                  Look at it this way - this is payback for all the "old" jokes.
                  At the precipice, we change!
                  The problem with Capitalism is that humans run it.

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                  • #9
                    Originally posted by Ronny View Post
                    It seems rather out of place to chastise SS recipients as being "responsible" for this monumental fiasco. How would you suggest that we/I take responsibility? By the way, you're not the first on this forum to take this position. Most of the members are of a similar mind, as I recall.

                    There are two obvious solutions. 1. Let it die for lack of funding (good luck electing those politicians), 2. Mandate that recipients die when they reach the age of 65 (current recipients are grandfathered in, of course).

                    Look at it this way - this is payback for all the "old" jokes.
                    IIRC, the biggest hit to SS came from funding the Viet Nam war. At any rate, the fund got raided long before I became of voting age and I'm 41. They're taking SS out of my check. They will be taking it out of my daughter's check when she starts working. What's the likelihood of us ever drawing it? The likelihood goes down with each generation. Someone is going to get screwed so why shouldn't it be those who voted for the politicians who spent the money on other things?

                    And of what mind am I? One who doesn't want to be saddled with a burden created by others? How selfish of me.

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                    • #10
                      I say raise the retirement age to 80.
                      They speak in bulletpointese leftist nutjob drivel. It doesn't matter. Nothing is as great a motivator as the chance to truly be free.
                      -Mr. Raceboy

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                      • #11
                        Originally posted by Jester View Post
                        I say raise the retirement age to 80.
                        That's inevitable and even that won't save this mother of all Ponzi schemes. Then there are the tens of millions of people in local Ponzi schemes. It's a disaster of epic proportions and there's nothing anyone can do to stop this from popping.

                        Remember, the only real safety net the government can provide in the long-run is a concrete floor and if you're lucky you might get to land on someone else's lifeless corpse cushioning your fall.
                        "Democracy is a form of worship. It is the worship of jackals by jackasses." H.L. Mencken

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                        • #12
                          Originally posted by Ronny View Post
                          It seems rather out of place to chastise SS recipients as being "responsible" for this monumental fiasco. How would you suggest that we/I take responsibility? By the way, you're not the first on this forum to take this position. Most of the members are of a similar mind, as I recall.

                          There are two obvious solutions. 1. Let it die for lack of funding (good luck electing those politicians), 2. Mandate that recipients die when they reach the age of 65 (current recipients are grandfathered in, of course).

                          Look at it this way - this is payback for all the "old" jokes.
                          Ronny's "grandfathered in" to the Magna Carta.

                          What's your Social Security number? 5?
                          For every ailment under the sun - There is a remedy, or there is none;
                          If there be one, try to find it; If there be none, never mind it. -- Mother Goose

                          "We've always assumed that you can't bring back the dead. But it's a matter of when you pickle the cells." -- Peter Rhee

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                          • #13
                            I don't have much more faith in 401's than I do SS. Every week, I contribute real dollars to my account and whenever we magically have a recession, my real dollars vaporize into some Wall Street fat cat's pockets. I don't think that's an accident. I wish I had a record of every dollar I've ever contributed, every dollar my employers have contributed and see if I'm even above water. Like gas going up 20 cents overnight and taking weeks or months to return, your 401k drops drastically and takes forever to recuperate. Then people will say they've broke even once it returns to the original value, not taking into account the contributions they've made in the meantime.

                            Just as the oligarchs and corporations have raided SS money from the federal coffers, they've eliminated the middle man and take it from your 401k's.

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                            • #14
                              I don't criticize people for taking a benefit no matter how much I disagree with the benefit scheme. I'm paying into SS now and you'd better believe I'll take the distributions when I retire. I'd much rather have that money to invest on my own, sure, but since there's a gun to my head to contribute now, I have no choice but to participate.
                              I'm for defending all rights for everyone.

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                              • #15
                                Originally posted by Just Jon View Post
                                I don't criticize people for taking a benefit no matter how much I disagree with the benefit scheme. I'm paying into SS now and you'd better believe I'll take the distributions when I retire. I'd much rather have that money to invest on my own, sure, but since there's a gun to my head to contribute now, I have no choice but to participate.
                                The game of musical chairs is great if you have a chair when the music stops. Those who donít get a chair are paying the same admission fee as those that do. Thereís no shortage of contempt from the chaired to the chairless. Keep paying suckers.

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