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    America's fertility rate and the number of births nationwide are continuing to decline.

    The number of births for the United States last year dropped to its lowest in about three decades, according to provisional data in a new report from the National Center for Health Statistics at the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
    "Even though the number of births we've seen in 2018 is the lowest that we've seen in 32 years, the total fertility rate is at a record low," said Brady Hamilton, a natality expert at the center and first author of the report.
    https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/15/healt...udy/index.html
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  • #2
    Having a kid is very expensive for most people these days. Having 3 or more is financially impossible.

    Pete (would probably have no siblings today if they had cost his parents what kids cost now)

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    • #3
      Iím ok with this ó we can replace with immigration.
      They speak in bulletpointese leftist nutjob drivel. It doesn't matter. Nothing is as great a motivator as the chance to truly be free.
      -Mr. Raceboy

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Plezercruz View Post
        Having a kid is very expensive for most people these days. Having 3 or more is financially impossible.

        Pete (would probably have no siblings today if they had cost his parents what kids cost now)
        Sucker!

        Steve (isn't helping)
        Last edited by Mr. Raceboy; 05-15-2019, 08:06 PM.
        "Democracy is a form of worship. It is the worship of jackals by jackasses." H.L. Mencken

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Jester View Post
          Iím ok with this ó we can replace with immigration.
          Immigration is the only thing that will extend the Social Security Ponzi scheme.
          "Democracy is a form of worship. It is the worship of jackals by jackasses." H.L. Mencken

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          • #6
            Works for me!

            (capitalism is a global ponzi scheme amortized to the future; letís keep it going!)
            They speak in bulletpointese leftist nutjob drivel. It doesn't matter. Nothing is as great a motivator as the chance to truly be free.
            -Mr. Raceboy

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Jester View Post
              Works for me!

              (capitalism is a global ponzi scheme amortized to the future; letís keep it going!)
              Huh? You're wrong on your parenthetical by definition as ponzi schemes are frauds and if fraud is involved, well, the it isn't capitalism. Do we really need to have "the talk" again about not confusion chronyism with capitalism? I'm pretty sure you're smarter than that so please don't pull a skooly here.

              Steve (knows that also, by definition, socialism is a ponzi scheme because it counts on continuing to bring in new people into the bottom of the people to pay those on top)
              "Democracy is a form of worship. It is the worship of jackals by jackasses." H.L. Mencken

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Mr. Raceboy View Post

                Sucker!

                Steve (isn't helping)
                I did your part. You're welcome.

                Jesse (has 5 kids and 2 grandkids now)
                DEEZ NUTS FOR PRESIDENT!!

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                • #9
                  Hereís the thing, capitalism requires the ability to borrow capital in order to fund projects based on projected earnings (e.g. you need money to build your store so you can sell things to earn enough money to pay for that store), for that to work, the market needs liquidity ó typically 9+ fold the amount of current extant wealth. Itís the fundamental basis for our economy and is a major component of how we left the dark ages ó we amortized future earnings. The thing is, if those earnings donít appear, the economy collapses. Explain how that isnít a Ponzi scheme, please.
                  They speak in bulletpointese leftist nutjob drivel. It doesn't matter. Nothing is as great a motivator as the chance to truly be free.
                  -Mr. Raceboy

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                  • #10
                    Wtf are we talking about social security or immigration? Go start your own thread on that topic.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Jester View Post
                      Hereís the thing, capitalism requires the ability to borrow capital in order to fund projects based on projected earnings (e.g. you need money to build your store so you can sell things to earn enough money to pay for that store), for that to work, the market needs liquidity ó typically 9+ fold the amount of current extant wealth. Itís the fundamental basis for our economy and is a major component of how we left the dark ages ó we amortized future earnings. The thing is, if those earnings donít appear, the economy collapses. Explain how that isnít a Ponzi scheme, please.
                      Ponzi schemes are characterized by the utter failure (including failure to even attempt) to produce anything of value with invested capital. Market capitalism is characterized by creating more value with invested capital that the capital itself is worth. However, neither method in and of itself is inherently unstable. In a ponzi scheme, the money supply and the total investment capital is conserved...it's just that some people are defrauded. We don't like criminals getting rich at the expense of their vicitms, but economically there's nothing unsound about it. Similarly, in a standard for-profit investment again the investment capital remains the same even if there is a failure...the investors lose money and the recipients of payments for investments that didn't pan out gain. There is no systemic failure either way.

                      Now if you're looking at the perils of fractional reserve banking (which you clearly are since you're citing that 9-fold capital requirement that its proponents love to talk about so much) then yes, that's highly prone to collapses. It's anticapitalistic though, in the sense that reserve banking as it is currently implemented is propped up by government action (the Federal Reserve exists primarily to protect fractional reserve banks from their own failures...and that is in fact its stated purpose). I don't think you can fault "capitalism" for that, as it's inherently anti-capitalistic.

                      Pete (thinks too many people confuse "capitalism" with "business" despite the fact that businesses are often knee deep on the government take)

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Beemer View Post
                        Wtf are we talking about social security or immigration? Go start your own thread on that topic.
                        Calm down and just be happy there are posts of any kind in any thread here kiddo.
                        "Democracy is a form of worship. It is the worship of jackals by jackasses." H.L. Mencken

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Plezercruz View Post

                          Ponzi schemes are characterized by the utter failure (including failure to even attempt) to produce anything of value with invested capital. Market capitalism is characterized by creating more value with invested capital that the capital itself is worth. However, neither method in and of itself is inherently unstable. In a ponzi scheme, the money supply and the total investment capital is conserved...it's just that some people are defrauded. We don't like criminals getting rich at the expense of their vicitms, but economically there's nothing unsound about it. Similarly, in a standard for-profit investment again the investment capital remains the same even if there is a failure...the investors lose money and the recipients of payments for investments that didn't pan out gain. There is no systemic failure either way.

                          Now if you're looking at the perils of fractional reserve banking (which you clearly are since you're citing that 9-fold capital requirement that its proponents love to talk about so much) then yes, that's highly prone to collapses. It's anticapitalistic though, in the sense that reserve banking as it is currently implemented is propped up by government action (the Federal Reserve exists primarily to protect fractional reserve banks from their own failures...and that is in fact its stated purpose). I don't think you can fault "capitalism" for that, as it's inherently anti-capitalistic.

                          Pete (thinks too many people confuse "capitalism" with "business" despite the fact that businesses are often knee deep on the government take)
                          Thanks Pete.

                          The Keynesian system is a ponzi scheme by definition. It's designed to reward the chronies.

                          Steve (really wishes people would take a few minutes to understand what capitalism actually is and the fact we don't have it)
                          "Democracy is a form of worship. It is the worship of jackals by jackasses." H.L. Mencken

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                          • #14
                            Has it ever existed?
                            They speak in bulletpointese leftist nutjob drivel. It doesn't matter. Nothing is as great a motivator as the chance to truly be free.
                            -Mr. Raceboy

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Jester View Post
                              Has it ever existed?
                              On a national scale, the closest the world has probably ever come is America in the 19th century. On a small scale, it exists in many places, especially once governments fail. Capitalism and big government cannot coexist. Politicians want power and there's no greater power than power over the economy. The ability to pick the winners and losers and to dole out favors to the politically connected is the greatest power government has outside of the ability to make every man a criminal. So freedom and capitalism go hand in hand.

                              I will tell you this. You will probably live to see the day when all this becomes painfully obvious to you.

                              Steve (is glad he has no children)
                              "Democracy is a form of worship. It is the worship of jackals by jackasses." H.L. Mencken

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