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  • #46
    I just wonder if the Clintons are so powerful, how come she didn't become president...
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    • #47
      Originally posted by dusty View Post
      Foster the People (!) has the inside scoop: epstein faked his death and he's getting plastic surgery in the middle east.

      https://www.westport-news.com/entert...n-14297411.php

      I knew it had something to do with Pumped Up Kicks. Epstein couldn't outrun the proverbial bullet.

      Seriously though, this conspiracy theory is one that is almost universally believed. It would seem no one believes this guy committed suicide and everyone has a theory of how he was "suicided". True or not, I do like seeing people universally skeptical of government.
      "Democracy is a form of worship. It is the worship of jackals by jackasses." H.L. Mencken

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Mr. Raceboy View Post

        I knew it had something to do with Pumped Up Kicks. Epstein couldn't outrun the proverbial bullet.

        Seriously though, this conspiracy theory is one that is almost universally believed. It would seem no one believes this guy committed suicide and everyone has a theory of how he was "suicided". True or not, I do like seeing people universally skeptical of government.
        When real life events play out as predictably as as a soap opera, it's natural to want to think that it is scripted.

        I have no idea what happened. The zerohedge post brainstormed the likely suspects in advance and pretty much nailed it:



        There are three main threats to Jeffrey Epstein’s life (or four, if you include his victims).

        No. 1 is his fellow inmates in the Manhattan MCC. He’ll be in very strict isolation, because inmates and pedophilia is a very explosive combination. So isolation, but that’s never 100%.

        And Judge Berman yesterday ordered him in jail until his trial(s), instead of in his $77 million Manhattan mansion not far from that same prison, so he’ll be there a while; that trial could take a very long time to happen, even years. All the more chance for an inmate to make an easy $1000 by offing him.

        The no. 2 threat is Epstein himself. Berman’s decision means he’s very unlikely to ever get out again. Chances of him being declared innocent are as close to zero as as anything Kelvin. So why would he want to continue to live? Perhaps his lawyers try and tell him he’s always got a shot, and there’s always a next court date, but he doesn’t strike me as fully delusional.

        I could be wrong, sure, about much of all this, but I don’t think so. The no. 3 threat is, obviously, the people he might “sing” about. And that’s an litany of the world’s who’s who. No doubt the FBI may already have their IDs and photos and what-not, but why chance it when you can take down the -potential- crown witness?
        It's easy to speculate that all 3 of these factors are at play.

        Maybe somebody there, inmate or employee, slipped him something he could use.
        Maybe it was somebody with foreign ties who did it, who has a close relative who is an asset of a foreign government or a US agency (or both).
        Maybe they whispered - "no guards after 7:30 pm tonight; you know what to do."
        And maybe he did.

        I'd like it to be released what he was found to have hung himself with, and whether it was with something he was allowed/supposed/known to have in his cell. That answer could tip me away from any kind of "assisted" suicide or murder theory.

        dusty (does find enough evidence to suspect that epstein has had protection from some major power, likely government related, and quite possibly as an asset for his leverage with powerful and influential people, and maybe even knowingly protecting a teen sex 'honey pot' - but wonders which government, and could it be primarily a foreign government?)
        For every ailment under the sun - There is a remedy, or there is none;
        If there be one, try to find it; If there be none, never mind it. -- Mother Goose

        "We've always assumed that you can't bring back the dead. But it's a matter of when you pickle the cells." -- Peter Rhee

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        • #49
          https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/...202402641.html

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          • #50
            Originally posted by dusty View Post
            dusty (does find enough evidence to suspect that epstein has had protection from some major power, likely government related, and quite possibly as an asset for his leverage with powerful and influential people, and maybe even knowingly protecting a teen sex 'honey pot' - but wonders which government, and could it be primarily a foreign government?)
            What evidence?
            "I guess I just hate the fact there is public property at all." - Mr. Raceboy.

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            • #51
              The speculative kind, that leads you to a pizza place with an assault weapon.
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              • #52
                Originally posted by skooly View Post

                What evidence?
                lol seriously?
                For every ailment under the sun - There is a remedy, or there is none;
                If there be one, try to find it; If there be none, never mind it. -- Mother Goose

                "We've always assumed that you can't bring back the dead. But it's a matter of when you pickle the cells." -- Peter Rhee

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Beemer View Post
                  The speculative kind, that leads you to a pizza place with an assault weapon.
                  the word is "circumstantial" and it counts.

                  dusty (hopes Bry sees the differences between alefantis and epstein)
                  Last edited by dusty; 08-15-2019, 03:13 AM.
                  For every ailment under the sun - There is a remedy, or there is none;
                  If there be one, try to find it; If there be none, never mind it. -- Mother Goose

                  "We've always assumed that you can't bring back the dead. But it's a matter of when you pickle the cells." -- Peter Rhee

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                  • #54
                    Fox News medical contributor Dr. Marc Siegel said Thursday that it's "more likely" Jeffrey Epstein's death was a homicide rather than a suicide, following a full autopsy of Epstein's body that reportedly found broken bones in his neck.

                    "The hyoid bone in the neck being fractured and other fractures in the neck, make it more likely, and again, this is a percentage call, more likely that it was a homicide than a suicide," Siegel said during an interview on "America's Newsroom."

                    Siegel said he is still waiting for more information before rendering a final opinion, but expressed suspicion and skepticism about the details surrounding Epstein's death.
                    https://www.foxnews.com/media/jeffre...ide-suspicious

                    Suicide or homicide, he's dead because government failed.
                    "Democracy is a form of worship. It is the worship of jackals by jackasses." H.L. Mencken

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                    • #55
                      Just read this interview with Epstein's former bodyguard. This is a guy who doesn't seem like he would normally be scared of anything and yet....

                      https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019...-old-boss.html
                      "Democracy is a form of worship. It is the worship of jackals by jackasses." H.L. Mencken

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                      • #56
                        If you have enough power/money (like the people this guy ran with), you can find a way to kill someone in jail.

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                        • #57
                          Jeffrey Epstein Autopsy Results Show He Hanged Himself in Suicide

                          The official results of an autopsy showed that the financier Jeffrey Epstein killed himself in his Manhattan jail cell, the city’s medical examiner’s office said on Friday, determining that the cause of death was suicide by hanging.

                          Mr. Epstein’s death had set off a wave of unfounded conspiracy theories, as people speculated online, without evidence, that he may have been killed to keep him from providing information to prosecutors about others in his social circle, including President Trump, former President Bill Clinton and Prince Andrew of Britain.

                          But on Friday, the chief medical examiner in New York City, Dr. Barbara Sampson, released a terse statement saying that, after an autopsy and a “careful review of all investigative information,” she had determined the cause of Mr. Epstein’s death was “hanging” and the manner was “suicide.”

                          The determination came six days after Mr. Epstein, 66, was found dead in his cell at the Metropolitan Correctional Center in Manhattan, where he was awaiting trial on federal sex trafficking charges.

                          Guards on their morning rounds found Mr. Epstein at about 6:30 a.m. on Saturday, prison officials said. He appeared to have tied a bedsheet to the top of a set of bunk beds, then knelt toward the floor with enough force that he broke several bones in his neck, officials said.
                          Time to put away the tin foil hats, guys... especially you dusty.

                          https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/16/n...gtype=Homepage
                          "I guess I just hate the fact there is public property at all." - Mr. Raceboy.

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                          • #58
                            i said it could be suicide. using a bedsheet (and having tried twice) definitely support that. Kneeling to break your own neck, not as much, but i'm no expert on it.

                            skooly, have you seen no evidence that epstein has had protection and ties to intelligence? what about the insane and illegal sweetheart deal he and his co-conspirators got? mainstream media is reporting acosta specifically told the trump administration that epstein was "intelligence" back when the white house was vetting him for the position (that he just resigned from).
                            For every ailment under the sun - There is a remedy, or there is none;
                            If there be one, try to find it; If there be none, never mind it. -- Mother Goose

                            "We've always assumed that you can't bring back the dead. But it's a matter of when you pickle the cells." -- Peter Rhee

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                            • #59
                              I’ll admit that, although I don’t really buy into these conspiracies, if they existed at all, getting the M.E. To sign off on it would presumably be step 1 in the plan.
                              They speak in bulletpointese leftist nutjob drivel. It doesn't matter. Nothing is as great a motivator as the chance to truly be free.
                              -Mr. Raceboy

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                              • #60
                                Ban bed sheets.
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