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    US police have arrested a man who walked into a Walmart store in Missouri armed with a loaded rifle and 100 rounds of ammunition on Thursday.

    Although the man, who also wore body armour, did not fire any shots, his actions sparked panic amongst shoppers.

    The incident comes less than a week after a mass shooting in an El Paso Walmart in Texas, in which 22 people were killed by a gunman.

    The man in Springfield was arrested after walking out of the store.

    On Friday, Springfield police named the man as 20-year-old Dmitriy Andreychenko and said he had been arrested for making a first degree "terrorist threat".

    "The case is currently under review by the Greene County Prosecutor. Once formal charges are filed by the Greene County Prosecutor's Office more detailed information will be released," police said in a statement.
    Police said Mr Andreychenko was "detained by an armed off-duty fireman until officers arrived on scene" and arrested him.

    It was not clear what his motives were.

    "His intent obviously was to cause chaos here, and he did that," Lt Mike Lucas of the Springfield police department told the Springfield News-Leader.

    The man, who wore a bullet-proof vest and military-style clothes, was filming himself walking through the store and making comments to people while pushing a shopping trolley as shoppers fled around him, Lt Lucas said.

    He was also carrying another gun, reports say.

    Springfield resident Julie Belew told the News-Leader she saw the man with a rifle walking toward the parking lot as another man, who she believes was the off-duty fireman, had his handgun out.

    Ms Belew said someone asked the man "why are you walking around in a tactical jacket carrying a rifle?" but she did not hear his response.

    When police arrived, the man told them "he was keeping his phone on for his own safety", Ms Belew said, adding that the young man did not appear surprised or upset.
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49291836
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  • #2
    Unless Missouri law is different, they may have trouble making "
    first degree terrorist threat" stick.
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    • #3
      I'm not sure what crime this guy committed? Unless he did something other than just carrying the weapons in the open, Missouri is an open carry state. That means the only people who committed crimes were the person who pulled a gun on him and stopped him as well as the police who arrested him with no crime committed.

      I'm not saying it wasn't in poor taste, but if poor taste was a crime half of America would be in prison. You can't invent charges for someone doing something completely legal just because of national media driven hysteria.
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      • #4
        You can't tell fire in a crowded theater, but I've never really understood the laws around that or how it was defined. I'd like to see the law on "making a terroristic threat" because I've never heard of it.

        Dude maybe shouldn't be arrested, but if I knew him, I'd seriously consider punching him somewhere it hurt for being an asshole.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Jester View Post
          You can't tell fire in a crowded theater, but I've never really understood the laws around that or how it was defined. I'd like to see the law on "making a terroristic threat" because I've never heard of it.

          Dude maybe shouldn't be arrested, but if I knew him, I'd seriously consider punching him somewhere it hurt for being an asshole.
          A theater is private property and you gain access to that theater by buying a ticket which gives the right to watch a movie/play whatever, but that's it. By creating a disturbance, you have infringed on the rights of the theater owner.

          Walmart allows open carry, but again it's private property so I'm pretty sure that just ended and the signs will be going up in days.

          To keep true to my libertarian ideals I can't say punch this guy in the face, but lets just say I would not be saddened in the least if an accident befell him that was the exact equivalent of getting punched in the face.
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          • #6
            Good thing he was white

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            • #7
              Was he carrying it with his hand near the trigger, or was it slung across his back?
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Jesse View Post
                Was he carrying it with his hand near the trigger, or was it slung across his back?
                That's what I want to know. How was he carrying the rifle?
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Jester View Post
                  You can't tell fire in a crowded theater, but I've never really understood the laws around that or how it was defined. .
                  Back before electricity was widespread, theater lighting was usually kerosene lamps, lots and lots of them. It wasn't uncommon for the lamps to get knocked over during the show and catch the whole place on fire (think oil-based paints on the sets, big frilly hoop-dresses, etc) . In an era where Emergency Exits didn't exist, it wasn't uncommon for a couple hundred people to burn to death in a theater fire.

                  So if someone yelled "fire!" there would be an immediate stampede out the front door, and people would get trampled to death. If it turned out to be a prankster, he probably got beat to death.
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                  • #10
                    Just for the record, the expression is “falsely shouting fire in a theatre and causing a panic.” The general legal principle is that speech that is dangerous and false is not protected.

                    What was a tragedy to many is simply this guy’s sick troll job. Not sure any charges will stick though.
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                    • #11
                      Nah, in todays day and age after a bunch of mass shooting, some white heavily armed, guy wearing tactical gear walking into any public place should be welcomed as a freedom fighter. Ya know because of the self flamed civil war about to started by trump and his gun backing clowns.
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                      • #12
                        There is now some speculation that the guy was "testing his rights". If that had been in Oklahoma, I don't know of a single law he violated. The guy that pulled a gun on him might be in some trouble, though. I imagine he will be forgotten, however.

                        Under only slightly different circumstances, he could be dead now.
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                        • #13
                          I guess the 200 rounds of ammo he just bought was, for flash?
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Ronny View Post
                            Under only slightly different circumstances, he could be dead now.
                            e.g. black
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                            • #15
                              This just shows how ridiculous open carry is. All it does is cause widespread panic.... just so a bunch of infantile man-babies can feel powerful and play soldier.
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