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    The Chicago Cubs have banned a fan indefinitely from Wrigley Field for making an alleged racist gesture.

    The incident took place while former Cubs player Doug Glanville, who is black, was working as an on-field reporter during Chicago's 5-2 win over the Miami Marlins on Tuesday.

    Cameras picked up the fan making a gesture behind Glanville's back.

    The Cubs concluded the gesture was "more likely than not" racist in nature and issued a ban.

    Fans watching the Tuesday night broadcast first noticed the thumb-and-forefinger 'OK' hand gesture that has become associated with white supremacy.

    Cubs president Theo Epstein said the incident was "truly disgusting" and told reporters on Wednesday the person would "never be welcome back to Wrigley Field".
    https://www.bbc.com/sport/baseball/48214303
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  • #2
    This was the big point of discussion for my lunch group yesterday at work.

    Pete (and his coworkers had no idea that gesture was racist)

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    • #3
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      Note: For reasons explained below, particular caution must be used when evaluating this symbol.

      The “okay” hand gesture—in which the thumb and index finger touch while the other fingers of the hand are held outstretched—is an obvious and ancient gesture that has arisen in many cultures over the years with different meanings. Today, in a usage that dates to at least as early as 17th century Great Britain, it most commonly signals understanding, consent, approval or well-being. Since the early 1800s, the gesture increasingly became associated with the word “okay” and its abbreviation “ok.”

      In 2017, the “okay” hand gesture acquired a new and different significance thanks to a hoax by members of the website 4chan to falsely promote the gesture as a hate symbol, claiming that the gesture represented the letters “wp,” for “white power.” The “okay” gesture hoax was merely the latest in a series of similar 4chan hoaxes using various innocuous symbols; in each case, the hoaxers hoped that the media and liberals would overreact by condemning a common image as white supremacist.

      In the case of the “okay” gesture, the hoax was so successful the symbol became a popular trolling tactic on the part of right-leaning individuals, who would often post photos to social media of themselves posing while making the “okay” gesture.

      Ironically, some white supremacists themselves soon also participated in such trolling tactics, lending an actual credence to those who labeled the trolling gesture as racist in nature. By 2019, at least some white supremacists seem to have abandoned the ironic or satiric intent behind the original trolling campaign and used the symbol as a sincere expression of white supremacy, such as when Australian white supremacist Brenton Tarrant flashed the symbol during a March 2019 courtroom appearance soon after his arrest for allegedly murdering 50 people in a shooting spree at mosques in Christchurch, New Zealand.

      The overwhelming usage of the “okay” hand gesture today is still its traditional purpose as a gesture signifying assent or approval. As a result, someone who uses the symbol cannot be assumed to be using the symbol in either a trolling or, especially, white supremacist context unless other contextual evidence exists to support the contention. Since 2017, many people have been falsely accused of being racist or white supremacist for using the “okay” gesture in its traditional and innocuous sense.

      Other, similar-seeming hand gestures have also been mistakenly assumed to have white supremacist connotations as a result of the “okay” hoax. One of these is the so-called “Circle Game,” in which people attempt to trick each other into looking at an okay-like hand gesture made somewhere below the waist. Another is the hand sign of the Three Percenter movement, a wing of the anti-government extremist militia movement. Three Percenters, who are right-wing extremists but are not typically white supremacists, often make a hand gesture to symbolize their movement that uses the outstretched middle, ring, and pinky fingers to represent a Roman numeral “3.” This gesture, from certain angles, can often resemble an “okay” hand gesture and has been misinterpreted by some as a white supremacist symbol.

      Because of the traditional meaning of the “okay” hand gesture, as well as other usages unrelated to white supremacy, particular care must be taken not to jump to conclusions about the intent behind someone who has used the gesture.

      https://www.adl.org/education/refere...y-hand-gesture
      "I guess I just hate the fact there is public property at all." - Mr. Raceboy.

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      • #4
        Quite possibly the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

        Pete (wonders if it's dumber if it's a hoax or dumber if it isn't, because both are super duper dumb)

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        • #5
          "Democracy is a form of worship. It is the worship of jackals by jackasses." H.L. Mencken

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          • #6
            That's not how the guy showed the gesture though. (still looks like the "ok" sign to me)

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            • #7
              Intent matters.

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              "I guess I just hate the fact there is public property at all." - Mr. Raceboy.

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              • #8
                If you do it over your eye and are a celebrity then illuminati confirmed



                dusty (remembers)
                For every ailment under the sun - There is a remedy, or there is none;
                If there be one, try to find it; If there be none, never mind it. -- Mother Goose

                "We've always assumed that you can't bring back the dead. But it's a matter of when you pickle the cells." -- Peter Rhee

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                • #9
                  23 Skidoo.

                  (Beware the fnords)
                  They speak in bulletpointese leftist nutjob drivel. It doesn't matter. Nothing is as great a motivator as the chance to truly be free.
                  -Mr. Raceboy

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by skooly View Post
                    Intent matters.

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                    He's just playing the "made you look" game.

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