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    I don't know how you could have voted for Obama care and now single payer without admitting Obamacare is a failure in their opinion

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff92se View Post
    I don't know how you could have voted for Obama care and now single payer without admitting Obamacare is a failure in their opinion
    Come on Jeff. That would require remembering something from the distant past.

    Pete (thinks "the distant past" is yesterday in the world of politics)

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    Single payer is shaping up to be the Democrats' number one issue in 2018, possibly in 2020.

    Pete (wishes he could say it was still a loser, but doesn't really know any more)

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    After single payer failed, Vermont embarks on a big health care experiment

    But Vermont is setting an ambitious goal of taking its alternative payment model statewide and applying it to 70 percent of insured state residents by 2022 which — if it works — could eventually lead to fundamental changes in how Americans pay for health care.

    “You make your margin off of keeping people healthier, instead of doing more operations. This drastically changes you, from wanting to do more of a certain kind of surgery to wanting to prevent them,” said Stephen Leffler, chief population health and quality officer of the University of Vermont Health Network.
    In Vermont, the goal is to limit the growth in overall annual health care spending to 3.5 percent each year.
    The current initiative is Vermont’s second attempt to revolutionize health care. It was the first state in the country to embrace a government-financed universal health-care system but abandoned the plan in late 2014 because of concerns over costs.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...=.ae423dcd28b6
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    Vermont needs border control.

    Pete (wonders how they plan to keep sickly New Yorkers from migrating there)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plezercruz View Post
    Vermont needs border control.

    Pete (wonders how they plan to keep sickly New Yorkers from migrating there)
    They abandoned single payer almost 3 years ago because it was ridiculously expensive. But employing it on the national scale will work.
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    Why single payer health care is a terrible option

    (CNN)The Affordable Care Act (ACA) is failing. Without regard for consequences, the law expanded government insurance programs and imposed considerable federal authority over US health care via new mandates, regulations and taxes. Insurance premiums skyrocketed even as deductibles rose; consumer choices of insurance on state marketplaces have rapidly vanished; and for those with ACA coverage, doctor and hospital choices have narrowed dramatically. Meanwhile, consolidation across the health care sector has accelerated at a record pace, portending further harm to consumers, including higher prices of medical care.

    Almost inexplicably, even more top-down control -- single-payer health care, a system in which the government provides nationalized health insurance, sets all fees for medical care and pays those fees to doctors and hospitals -- has found new support from the left. And this despite its decades of documented failures in other countries to provide timely, quality medical care, and in the face of similar problems in our own single-payer Veterans Affairs system.
    Single-payer systems in countries with decades of experience have been proven in numerous peer-reviewed scientific journals to be inferior to the US system in terms of both access and quality. Americans enjoy superior access to health care -- whether defined by access to screening; wait-times for diagnosis, treatment, or specialists; timeliness of surgery; or availability of technology and drugs. As those countries turn to privatization to solve their systems' failures, progressives here illogically pursue that failed model.
    And make no mistake about it -- America's most vulnerable, the poor, as well as the middle class, will undoubtedly suffer the most if the system turns to single-payer health care, because they will be unable to circumvent that system.
    http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/25/opinio...las/index.html

    And that was on CNN!
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