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    Quote Originally Posted by Plezercruz View Post
    The author was on the radio this morning. She told me that "millions of square acres" of California have been burned this summer.

    Pete (thinks it's safe to say she can't do math)
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    Quote Originally Posted by dusty View Post
    Yup, like all those uncontrollable fires, from man-made global warming.
    Itís not global warming, it's a policy of not fighting forest fires unless they threaten man made structures, and then building structures all over the damn place in the forest.

    So, they fight every fire, keep them limited in area, which allows the fuel to build up until the fires become uncontrollable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plezercruz View Post
    Funny...

    ...all these places with uncontrollable wildfires...

    ...I sure wish I lived there.

    Pete (mishandled his life somehow to still live here)
    California has been good to me. The mid-term plan is to buy another house and, an office building. Iíd like to retire in 20-25 years, maybe move to Palos Verdes, Rolling Hills, Newport Beach, Malibu or, possibly Northern California. Having travelled all over the United States, itís hard to think of anywhere better except maybe Hawaii where I may spend a good amount of time visiting in retirement. The food, the things to do, the opportunities are second to none.

    Earthquake impacted me only once back in Ď91 and, that was covered by earthquake insurance. The tough thing about California is itís damn expensive in every way. Although one can manage with half as much, Iíd say $150,000 per year is needed to feel comfortable here. But, as long as you are earning well, thereís no where else Iíd rather be.

    Dan (thinks traffic is a greater issue than the fires and ground movement)
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    Before I started traveling and before I put down the Limbaugh/Hanity Republican Koolaid, I thought 90+% of America was unlivable. Take NYC for example. Why they even tell you how big your soda can be!!! My first time I went, it was part of a larger road trip and only went as a bucket list thing to see the Statue of Liberty and other major tourist sites. I absolutely fell in love with the place. Spent a total of 15 days on 3 trips. Now I haven't "lived" there and it's extremely likely I'd never be able to afford to. But if I hit the Powerball, I'd definitely be buying a place there. You have the world at your fingertips there.

    What's unlivable to me or you is subjective and totally different for others. I live in a very sparsely populated rural area and if I get the cops called on me for hiking within 2.5 miles of my house, how livable is my neighborhood for a black man? I don't think there are 10 black people living within a 10 mile radius of my house. I always thought the country life was the place to be but these people are all up in your business too. I just have lots of trees as cover.

    I haven't been to California yet but it is definitely on my to do list. 8 National Parks. I'm sure LA has a huge cultural scene but being spread out and traffic has me worried.

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    My wife and I toured Los Angeles many years ago. It was literally 20 years ahead of Miami in terms of art, culture, and food. I hope South Florida has caught up a little since then, but there is no denying Californiaís greatness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by electrician1976 View Post
    Before I started traveling and before I put down the Limbaugh/Hanity Republican Koolaid, I thought 90+% of America was unlivable. Take NYC for example. Why they even tell you how big your soda can be!!! My first time I went, it was part of a larger road trip and only went as a bucket list thing to see the Statue of Liberty and other major tourist sites. I absolutely fell in love with the place. Spent a total of 15 days on 3 trips. Now I haven't "lived" there and it's extremely likely I'd never be able to afford to. But if I hit the Powerball, I'd definitely be buying a place there. You have the world at your fingertips there.

    What's unlivable to me or you is subjective and totally different for others. I live in a very sparsely populated rural area and if I get the cops called on me for hiking within 2.5 miles of my house, how livable is my neighborhood for a black man? I don't think there are 10 black people living within a 10 mile radius of my house. I always thought the country life was the place to be but these people are all up in your business too. I just have lots of trees as cover.

    I haven't been to California yet but it is definitely on my to do list. 8 National Parks. I'm sure LA has a huge cultural scene but being spread out and traffic has me worried.

    People all up in your business seems to be inversely proportional to population density. I swear, if there were only three people on earth, two of them would be talking about what the third one was doing. But, you want to ride a camel dressed head to toe in green iridescent spandex while chanting satanic-sounding prayers through Central Park in NYC, not even the tourists will give you much more than a second look.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skooly View Post
    Was it like Country Mouse in the Big City?
    Very much so. Poor Country Mouse was happy to get back to the country. He looks at SF now and is happy he was so naÔve. No cardboard box houses for him.
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