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  1. #31
    Right, so in addition to her total lack of credibility because she's a blackmailer, she's also just plain goldgrubbing.

    Pete (thinks if the Donald had any credibility whatsover he might believe that Daniels is totally lying)

  2. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by Plezercruz View Post
    Right, so in addition to her total lack of credibility because she's a blackmailer, she's also just plain goldgrubbing.

    Pete (thinks if the Donald had any credibility whatsover he might believe that Daniels is totally lying)
    Lying about what? The relationship? Then why the $130k payment right before the election?

    I don't doubt what she's doing but that's not the point to me. Trump had an affair and tried to hide it. His lawyer lied about the payment not being known to Trump and lied about not being reimbursed.

    If the GOP tired to impeach Clinton for his affair, then the Democrats will probably do the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plezercruz View Post
    Right, so in addition to her total lack of credibility because she's a blackmailer, she's also just plain goldgrubbing.

    Pete (thinks if the Donald had any credibility whatsover he might believe that Daniels is totally lying)
    Isn't the whole idea behind most cases of blackmail, is that the information is correct, and thus damaging?

  4. #34
    According to the contract, she wasn't just saying stuff, but she had a bunch of emails and communications with D that they were buying from her. There's certainly something there.

    Also, there's a liquidated damages provision. In addition to being subject to return her payout and possibly pay "actual damages" for harming D's reputation, the contract says she is liable for $1 Million per act in violation of the contract. Filing this suit and attaching the contract is at least one act in violation of the contract, possibly more.

    dusty (feels the liquidated damages provision, at least, might not be valid)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kutnupe14 View Post
    Isn't the whole idea behind most cases of blackmail, is that the information is correct, and thus damaging?
    No, not really. Blackmail (where it is a separate offense from extortion) only requires a threat of making an allegation. Many (if not most) blackmailers are full of crap.

    Consider that for most politicians, the mere allegation that they slept with Stormy Daniels would derail their campaigns. Trump is special because everyone knows he's slime.

    Pete (wonders if Stormy Daniels might be prosecuted for blackmail/extortion when this thing is done)

  6. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by dusty View Post
    According to the contract, she wasn't just saying stuff, but she had a bunch of emails and communications with D that they were buying from her. There's certainly something there.

    Also, there's a liquidated damages provision. In addition to being subject to return her payout and possibly pay "actual damages" for harming D's reputation, the contract says she is liable for $1 Million per act in violation of the contract. Filing this suit and attaching the contract is at least one act in violation of the contract, possibly more.

    dusty (feels the liquidated damages provision, at least, might not be valid)
    There's no doubt in my mind that he slept with her. Probably with a lot of other people too. That's specific to him though, not her. Defamation blackmail is likely more common than actual truthful blackmail.

    Odds that she has $1M to lose? Minimal.

    Odds that she'll have $1M if she publishes a book. Virtually guaranteed.

    Pete (suspects we'll see that lawsuit at some point)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plezercruz View Post
    No, not really. Blackmail (where it is a separate offense from extortion) only requires a threat of making an allegation. Many (if not most) blackmailers are full of crap.

    Consider that for most politicians, the mere allegation that they slept with Stormy Daniels would derail their campaigns. Trump is special because everyone knows he's slime.

    Pete (wonders if Stormy Daniels might be prosecuted for blackmail/extortion when this thing is done)
    I'd argue, that neither neither blackmail nor extortion applies. Both imply someone seeking compensation illegally. What compensation did Daniels demand? And I still hold that blackmail involves information that is for the most part true.

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    President Trump's lawyer secured a restraining order against porn star Stormy Daniels

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    On Thursday night, Michael Avenatti tweeted an image of what looked like a CD or DVD, with the caption: "If a picture is worth a thousand words, how many words is this worth???? #60minutes #pleasedenyit #basta."

    Avenatti said in an interview with CNN's Wolf Blitzer that the disc contains evidence proving the porn star's claims about her alleged affair with Trump.

    "I want to be really clear about this: It is a warning shot. And it's a warning shot to Michael Cohen and anyone else associated with President Trump that they better be very, very careful after Sunday night relating to what they say about my client and what spin or lies they attempt to tell the American people," Avenatti said.
    https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/23/polit...eet/index.html
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  10. #40
    I don't think Stormy or her lawyer did much to help themselves last night. I watched it and it thought Anderson did a decent job at asking questions. It was almost like the piece was not so much about her ( that will get the views) but more of a reach out for the Mueller team to look into it.

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